All-In Podcast (September 2025): Elon Musk on DOGE, Optimus, Starlink and AI
Musk talks with the All-In hosts about his DOGE experience, Optimus, Tesla's AI5 chips, Starlink-enabled smartphones, xAI's Grok models and Mars (per the official chapter list).
Episode details
- Show
- All-In Podcast
- Official title
- Elon Musk on DOGE, Optimus, Starlink Smartphones, Evolving with AI, Why the West is Imploding
- Released
- September 10, 2025
- Runtime
- About 45 minutes
- Hosts
- Chamath Palihapitiya, Jason Calacanis, David Sacks and David Friedberg
What the episode covers
A short, dense interview. From the official chapter list, in order:
- DOGE: Musk reflects on his DOGE experience.
- Optimus: progress, potential and the "hands problem".
- Tesla: AI5 chips and their impact on FSD.
- SpaceX: the vision for Starlink-enabled smartphones, a $17B spectrum deal, and a Starship update.
- xAI: next-generation Grok models, Colossus 2, scaling laws and "Grokipedia".
- Bigger picture: evolving alongside AI, the "implosion of the West", the religion vacuum, understanding the universe, going to the Moon, and what happens on Mars.
Where to watch or listen
More Elon Musk on All-In Podcast
- Elon Musk & Gwynne Shotwell on AI Risks and Peer Review, Starship, Terafab, SpaceX/Tesla Merger — September 15, 2026
- Elon Musk: OpenAI Betrayal, His Future at Tesla, and the Next Big Thing - Grokipedia — October 31, 2025
- Elon Musk | All-In Summit 2024 — September 9, 2024
- Elon Musk: Ukraine, X, the creator economy, China, AI & more (All-In Summit 2023) — September 12, 2023
See the full list on Elon Musk on All-In.
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